Transcript: Kapihan sa Diamond Hotel Q&A

Q: Tanong ho, nakarating na ba sa inyo yung sulat ni MILF chairman Al Haj Murad MILF chairman Al Haj Murad? Ng MILF na ang kahilingan niya na huwag magagalaw yung draft ng BBL at kailangan kung anong pinagpasya ng Executive at ng grupo nila yun nga at wala ng .. bago dun ano po yung tingin niyo roon?

Sen. Bongbong: Well hindi bago yan, oo natanggap ko na yung sulat, nabasa ko yung sulat hindi bago yan, doon yung mga hearing namin sa South sa Mindanao. Yung MILF side paulit ulit na diniinin talaga nila yan, na sinasabi na wag ng palitan as pass the BBL as is do not change it etc. etc. Kapag tinatanong naming bakit masyadong dinidiin na huwag papalitan sinasabi nila dahil kung masyadong palitan yung BBL o Bangsamoro Basic Law ay baka lumayo na masyado dun sa pinag- agreehan dun sa framework agreement na nilagdaan ng Republika ng Pilipinas at ng MILF. So kapag ganoon na masyado ng malayo ang version na lumabas sa Kongreso ang sabi nila that no longer flows from the framework agreement. So, kaya nga ang chairman ng ADHOC committee sa House at saka ako, pinag uusapan nga namin ito kung anong approach natin dito because we have to very fine line ngayon between making the version as good as possible at the same time na hindi masyado palitan.

Pero our function as legislators is to make sure that the law is at the very least, legal, constitutional and then forceable. Kung sa palagay namin ay it does not pass those tests, ay kailangan naming itong palitan and to change the law para gawing legal, para gawing constitutional, para gawing enforceable. So ganoon ang approach namin. So sa ngayon, for example, that’s why the reason why natigil lahat ng hearing sa Senado is because kailangan nating malaman kung anong nangyari para lalagyan nating ng mga provision, amendments kung ano man ang pangangailangan sa BBL para hindi na ulit mangyari. So we have to make it better, so that’s were constantly doing. So in the mean time that is why right now, habang natigil muna, nasuspinde muna yung mga hearings ang ginagawa naming ay binabalikan naming yung mga constitutional infirmities or constitutional problems that we need to attended to before we receive all of the facts of the Mamasapano incident and from there we can also introduce some amendments whatever changes we feel are needed para nga hindi na mangyari ulit yun.

So there are many issues so that’s why medyo sabi namin, hindi na lang bale, we just have to make sure it’s as good it be. So because mayroong beyond the before the Mamasapano massacre before that ever happened, before the constitutional, identified constitutional marami ng kailangang ayusin pa, administrative, political, power sharing, all of these things for example one simple issue was the possibility of an LGU joining the Bangsamoro court territory. Sa draft BBL ang nakalagay doon, with a 10 % petition of the voting population or a resolution by the Sanggunian that will already open the way to a plebiscite to joining. Ang tanong naman ng iba, can we then also remove ourselves from the Bangsamoro? Wala namang mechanism to do that, so papaano iyon, it doesn’t make sense. How do we administer for example what I called the orphan barangays there are I think 36 barangays that are non-contiguous to the Bangsamoro court territory. There are cities that are not that contiguous. So what does the, how do we administrative should we vote to join the Bangsamoro territory? Sino mag-aadminister sa kanila? Anong probinsiya nila? Anong LGU nila? How does that going to work?

Now the issue of Bangsamoro police has become of course high lightened because in the BBL draft ang nakalagay doon, the Bangsamoro government will form a Bangsamoro police. That police force will be, tinanong namin ilan, kung papano, saan kukunin yung pulis, sabi ang mga fighter namin na dating fighter ng commission namin yun ang gagawin naming pulis. Now, in what happened in the Mamasapano, sa palagay ko hindi tatangapin ng mga pulis natin yun, baka yung mga na involve doon sa Mamasapano ay maging pulis din na kapwa rin nila pulis. So this is the thing that has been raised. Now that is aside from the constitution of questions. So, marami pa talagang kailangang gawin, so, I think that we have decided we will just push to try to keep it close to the draft as possible. Pero pag talagang nakikita naming na kailangang palitan, o kailangan amyendahan, o kailangang bawasan, dagdagan whatever it takes ay gagawin namin.

We cannot in good conscience must allow we know not to be…legal constitution reinforcements.

Ariel Ayala: Gaano po karaming provision ang posibleng mabasura sa Supreme Court na magiging unconstitutional na nilalaman nitong BBL? Malaking porsyento ba?

Sen. Bongbong: Well maraming nagsabi na at naglista na ng mga grounds kung bakit daw ito ay unconstitutional, they have all been announce already that they will challenge the BBL when it comes out when it is pass into law. During the hearings naman ng kay Senator Miriam, ang lumabas, kaya ba ng batas, na amyendahan ang constitution, because the constitution creates ARMM by passing a law can we now say change what the constitution had mandated. Because in their interpretation the constitution only allow the first congress to create the ARMM well also the CAR, the Cordillera. But speaking in the Muslim Mindanao, sabi yung batas hindi pwedeng maging mas mataas na batas kaysa saligang batas at ang saligang batas sinasabi na ang first congress will organize, create and organize the Autonomous Region Muslim Mindanao. The opinions of some of the legal luminaries that came to the hearings sinasabi na hindi kaya ng Kongreso sa pamamagitan ng isang batas na palitan o hindi pansinin o ibalewala ang nasa Konstitusyon. So there is a fundamental problem I guess the law will have to be challenge at ang Supreme Court ang magdedecide diyan, hindi na ang Kongreso.

Ayala: Maraming salamat po Mr. President Bongbong Marcos.

De Guzman: Magandang umaga po sa lahat, Juvy de Guzman po ng DBWM. Senator, gusto ko lang po malaman, at in behalf rin po dun sa mga concern na nagtatanong, kung sakali po they can na mapasa yung BBL na to, at nalaman na meron palang napakalaking problema na macre-create, ito po ba ay pwedeng bawiin again or hindi pwede? At pangalawa, alam naman po natin na marami na tayong batas sa Konsitutusyon na hindi nasusunod pero naaaprubhan po, sa mga ganitong pangyayari ano po ba yung mga, bakit nagkakaganoon?

Sen. Bongbong: siguro gaya ng nacha- challenge pero ito siguradong may mag cha-challenge, tiyak yoon lalo na yung mga abogadong grupo marami ng nagsasabi icha-challenge. Going back doon sa una mong tanong yung na isa batas na, napirmahan na, at it has already lahat ng constitutional challenges ay na overcome na, batas na yun. Kailangan mo ng sundan yun, so that’s going to be a.. Siguro hindi pwedeng bawiin, pwedeng amyendahan, basta nakita natin, teka hindi nakita itong problema ito kailangan natin itong baguhin at magiging problema yan so, we have to take that in full counted we’ll try to amend it, to make it better but hopefully hindi na mangyari yun, dahil sa ginagawa naming sa Kongreso paglabas nuon, wala ng glaring, contradictions, glaring problems. Sana naman ay lahat, lalo na ng malalaki at yung mga obvious na ay naayos na sa Kongreso.

De Guzman: Hindi po ba sa tingin niyo lalong magkakagulo kasi alam naman po natin na napakaraming grupo sa Mindanao na hindi magkakasundo dapat doon muna ay ayusin nila bago sila mag ano ng batas, sa tingin niyo lang po.

Sen. Bongbong: Yun na nga ang sinasabi ko, kung kailangan siguro natin tingnan ng medyo mas malawak na perspective itong sitwasyon na ito. Dahil ang sinasabi ko dapat tanggapin natin syempre may kwestiyon kung ang MILF at BIFF ay magkahiwalay talaga. Sabihin nalang natin na magkahiwalay sila, kung maayos ang usapan natin sa MILF at talagang hindi nag gigera ang MILF at gobyerno ng Pilipinas ay ginigera pa rin tayo ng BIFF. Nandiyan pa yung Abu Sayaf, nandiyan pa yung mga what we only refer to now as private armed group na walang pangalan, walang ano so you do not know kung may ideology sila o kung mga banditry lang sila o kailangan nating gumawa ng paraan because there’s also an MNLF. The MNLF have came to agreement, the MNLF have the final agreement of the 1996.

So how does this work in that context?

Nakita naman natin before any of this happened nung napirmahan nung nalagdaan in Frame Work Agreement nag Uprising sa Zamboanga ang MNLF para sabihing bakit hindi kami kasama? So we have to really take all this into a count. Beyond that kailangan din nating isipin na hindi lang political solution ito. One of the main problems of Muslim Mindanao is under development and under representation that’s was identified before, Noon pa. There is no none wage in the BBL that somehow answers that. So kailangan din nating isipin lahat yun so now maliwanag na maliwanag na importante nga ang magandang BBL ngunit, this is not the only, this is not what I came to call “the Magic Pill” na pagka bastat ito 00:55 ayos na lahat ang problema natin Not at all that is the very very beginning Assuming we pass a, sabihin na nating perfect na Bangsamoro Basic law even if that’s perfect he is to be so much more support over so many years para maging matagumpay yung Bangsamoro Basic Law.

De guzman: Okay senator. sa inyo pong pakiramdam, last nalangpo. Ilang porsyento nama ipapasa ang BBL?

Sen. Bongbong: Well I said, I think its…sa both houses sangayon kung iboboto today hindi papasa siguro ang anu dahil the people are still quite shock about what happened.

De guzman: Thank you very much.

Mel Chavez: Asosasyon ng komentarista at announcer sa Pilipinas, di paba natingnan ninyo na meron ng defacto Bangsamoro Basic Law sa Mindanao? Dahil yung pangyayari sa Mamasapano pagpumasok patay!, pag pumasok yung armado patay!, Dapat nakita na ng senado at ng congresso na si… na ito na.at pagkatapos nyan e coconect na nila sa malysia ang nasabing ah, ah Bangsamoro Republic.

Ayala: Okay sasagot muna si Senador sa unang tanong. Senador meron na bang defacto Bangsamoro Nation sa Mindanao?

Sen. Bongbong: Yeah, sang-ayon ako dun that… kailangan talaga nating malaman kung anu ba talaga ang nangyari at meron naman akung nakitang balita kanina. Was watching the o was listening to the radio sabi ng MILF malapit na raw lumabas ang kanilang report, we will all very interested to see what happen there, ang kailngan para sakin which is one of the most important parts na kailangan ayusin dito pag-aralan ng mabuti at bigyan ng solusyon ay tinatawag na coordination, The SAF was when within its right because merong na hindi nag sabi dahil merong exception doon sa mikanismong yun that the SAF, the AFP must give 24hours notice for any operations but the reason exception except for high priority targets, Siguro wala nang mas high priority kay Marwan at Uzman, So that is the agreement, a ceasefire agreement, that is within in ceasefire agreement ang question ko rin beside try to bring out in the senate hearing last Tuesday was a sabihan na natin na hindi nag coordinate pero nag puputukan na mula nung nag simulang mag coordinate hanggang nag ceasefire it was 11hours, So that mechanism still is not efficient and not working kahit na nag coordination na sabihin nalang natin na… Yung si general Orense who is the GRP 04:26 was trying to find his counter party the MILF 04:31and starting from 5:30 in the morning para sabihan, now see the commander of the MILF camp. Nakipag usap na sa International Monitoring Team 11:30 palang ng umaga pero 4 O’clock ceasefire so by 11:30 in the morning nasabihan na si Guma, Guma is the commander of 105th that’s the unit of MILF na ang kaharap ninyo gobyerno, itigil nyo muna ang putukan dahil sa ceasefire hindi kayo dapat naglalaban, But even then its still to close to five hours for the fighting to stop so that is the, that coordination was a despite the fact that everybody try. I think perhaps on both sides everybody try, to put mechanism the coordinating mechanism para matigil ang putukan tried very hard it really was not effective,dahil it took so long the fact that hindi ma contact ni general Orense ang kanyang counterpart dahil daw tulog , ang sabi nung finally nakausap nya ang sabi daw “sorry tulog ako” alam mo matanda na ako kailangan ko na   magpahinga, ganun ang testimony ni general Orense sa senado that we cannot allow that kind of problem to 06:01 kumbaga sa ruso at amerikano may half line pag dinampot mo may sasagot at makipag usap kaagad, so this mechanism are we have to strengthen that’s why the facts of the mamasapano massacre must be known, so that this kind of mechanism can be strengthen, because we cannot afford to have this kind of incidents happen again.

Chavez: Senador, Napapanood ko po ang iyong mga pag hihearing pero wala pong nag tanong kung bakit may mga armas ito? Bakit may mga training ito? Saan ito nag tetraining? dahil ang pag kaka alam ko nag tetraining sila sa Sabah, nag tetraining at ang nag pifinance ang malysia , bakit wala kayong sinasabing ganun?

Sen. Bongbong: Maraming nag tanong ng ganun even in the house maraming nag tanong bakit andyan ang mga teroristang yan, tapos sinasabi ng Intel Report there 63 yata was the number that was use na meron pang na 63 na terorista, nag tuturuan sila ang sinasabi ng MILF hindi sa amin yan sa BIFF area yan hindi yan sa amin kaya’t that yung relationship na pa ulit ulit kung sinasabi ipaliwanag ninyong mabuti at patunayan ninyong mabuti na hindi kayo magkasama, kasi kung magkasama kayo wala na tayung pinag-usapan dito dahil you have negotiating in bad faith, if you are not if talagang maipakita na hindi talaga magkaisang grupo ay sasabihin natin siguro kailangan natin puntahan ang BIFF paano natin ititigil ang gyera sa inyo, So that’s why again this fact have to come out and have to be made clear otherwise mahirap, your negotiating dito nikikipag away/nakikipaglaban pa itong isa, so kahit anung napakagandang peace agreement ninyo dito kapag ito lumalaban parin ganun parin at again take a step back, dapat a larger perspective. Ang purpose nitong ating ginagawa ay hindi para pumasa ng batas ang purpose nito ay para magkaroon ng kapayapaan ang Muslim Mindanao kung kasama dyan sa solusyon na yan kasama dyan ang BBL, then gawin natin pero kung Makita rin at parang yun ang lumalabas na hindi lamang ang BBL ang kailangan kung hindi marami pang ibang usapan, marami pang ibang agreement , marami pang development ang dapat din nating tignan yan at dapat din nating isama yan sa solusyon para nga magkaroon ng kapayapaan sa Muslim Mindanao.

Chavez: Last nalang ho. Wala ba kayong pananaw sa legislative, ang house at saka ang senate, na hostage na ho kayo sa ginawa ng pangulo at ng MILF tungkolditosa BBL Dahil an sabinilawag palitan e, Etona an gaming gusto kung wala ganun din gyera rin.

SenBongbong: Ah yung hostage? No no, we didn’t feel that maliwag sa amin ang katungkulan namin na mag sulat ng magandang batas, again with the test ng mga sinabi ko at palagay ko naman yung mga sulat na ganyan yung mga salitang ganyan ay dapat wag nang palitan that is their wish oo, yun ang gusto nila, we well try to accommodate that wish as much as we can but we also have to do our jobs, so no we do not feel any pressure na wag palitan na ganito ganyan o na nanakot whatever, wala I don’t feel , I don’t know about the house but kami sa senado we don’t hindi naman kami na te-threatened or natatakot or feeling that where being health hostage na we have pass the BBL as is for health wala naman sigurung ganung pakiramdam.

Linggoy Alcuaz from Opinyon at CDIO: Magandang umaga po. Lingoyan Quas ng Opinyon at CDIO. Tatlo po ang tanong ko…pwede po ilalabas ko muna yung tatlong tanong bago ninyo sagutin. Una kay Senator Marcos…

Kung alas po ang cease fire, bakit po nagpaputok pa ng white phosphorus na tatlong rounds nung 5:30. Pangalawa po, sa sinumang gustong sumagot. Ako po ay mayroong konting understanding ng “Media value” para sa International News Organizations. Nagtataka po ako at ito po ay tinanong rin ni Kabayang Noli de Castro sa kanyang programa ngayong umaga…kung bakit di po lumalabas o hindi po nya nakikita o di ko po nakikita, napapanuod, naririnig sa International TV networks yung tungkol sa pag capture sa “Most Wanted Man” o “Osama Bin Laden of Southeast Asia” at yung pagka patay sa 44 na SAF at yung malaking political crisis ngayon sa Pilipinas dahil dito.

Sen. Bongbong: Tatanungin ko rin siguro, ang tanong ay dapat sa inyo. Bakit sa palagay ninyo bakit di lumalabas, kayo ang mga media practitioners. Kami nga, ako I’ve asked myself the same thing “Bakit di lumalabas ito. It is a very important piece of news.” Anyway, to answer the first question, kung bakit alas-4:00. Ang pinagbabasehan ko lang yung AFP report. Ang AFP report na binigay saamin is that 4:00 – total ceasefire. That was the last item in their report. Pero lumabas nung sa hearing na may pumatak na tatlo na white phosphorus 5:30 daw around past 5:00. Siguro I have to speculate a little bit pero siguro yung mga sinasabi ng survivors na pag bagsak ng white phosphorus…dun na umatras talaga lahat ng kalaban. Siguro para ilibre (I don’t know you have to ask them) yung mga na-pinned down, nagpaputok para umatras yung kalaban para makapasok na yung kukuha ng bangkay.

Some of the testimonies that came out…Monday ng hapon may naghahabulan pa. So although it said “total ceasefire” ibig sabihin magkabila nag-agree na itigil ang putukan but siguro may sporadic pa na engagement so again, hindi naman kumpleto pa. The PNP board of Inquiry has not yet release a formal report. This is all based on the AFP report kasi kanila lang yung nakumpleto kagad at pinagba-basehan namin…also the MILF so we really cannot say. But again, it’s important to know kung bakit nga to get the actual categorical answer to your question so that we can strengthen that mechanism of coordination and pagka nagka sagupaan na nga, kung paano maitigil kaagad ang putukan.

Ayala: Ang tanong para sa dalawa nating mambabatas na panauhin…Sa harap po na nalaman na impormasyon tungkol dun sa Mamasapano should we stay or stray sa ating pakikipag usap sa MILF. Stay or stray… Senator Bongbong?

Sen. Bongbong: We cannot abandon the peace process. That is the first, yan ang pinaka importanteng kailangan nating huwag nating makakalimutan. Dahil kung wala na tayong peace process, yung ngyari sa Mamasapano mangyayari yan araw araw. Mag gigiyera na, Yung sinasabing “all out war” walang may gusto nun. Because we do not want war that’s precisely kung bakit binalak natin pumasok sa peace process, bakit may BBL, bakit kaya may framework agreement. So that is the basis. Huwag natin kakalimutan yun. You know all of these are elements of the peace process so we can decide whether ituloy itong parteng ito, pwedeng ituloy itong bahaging ito, pwedeng itigil ito. But the total, in totality of the peace process hindi natin pwedeng tigilan yan. It is something that we have been striving for, for too many years and people on both sides of the conflict have made too many sacrifices and have suffered too much tragedy for us in good conscience to just leave it alone and say “Bahala na! Mag giyera na kayo lahat dyan!” Hindi natin pwede pabayaan yan.

Ayala: Sumagi po ba sa inyong kaisipan na baka mali ang grupong kinakausap? Baka mas magandang kausapin ang BIFF.

Sen. Bongbong: Pumasok sa isipan ko yun. At sinasabi ko yun na nga. Kagaya nga ng sinasabi ko, kahit magadang usapan nyo nung isang grupo, kung may isang grupo pa nag nakikipag-giyera walang kapayapaan. I think there are two ways to go. Either halimbawa, to use the BIFF as an example. Kausapin natin ang BIFF. Kung hindi talaga makipag usap satin i-isolate natin by strengthening the peace agreement with all the other elements. Kung sumang ayon na lahat at may natira pang isang grupo na hindi sumasangayon, ma-a-isolate na sila. They will lose support both from the ground, political support and even in the armed struggle; they will also lose support from that. So there are two ways to go. But again, it’s hard to say kung ano yung pinaka mainam na gagawin hangga’t malaman kung bakit nagka problema. There are those questions about what happened, the relationship of the MILF and the BIFF. There are also questions on our side, on the government side. What happened to this sa tinatawag na line of commands, what happened there? Pangalawa, there was a…I would called it a chilling statement made by General Catapang nung sinabi “Bakit di ka nagpalipad ng air asset?” Ang sagot nya “Hindi kami nagpalipad ng air asset dahil baka ma misinterpret ng MILF na inaatake natin sila at lumaki ang laban.” So inuna nila na di ma-misinterpret ng MILF habang pinapatay na yung ating mga SAF troopers. That is a clearly prioritization of the peace process above the lives of our SAF policemen. Siguro para saakin, that’s very disturbing! And if that is indeed a policy of government it is not a good policy and we will have to change it.

Ayala: Liliwanagin ko lang po baka ma-taken out of context, yung pong standing nyo sa pakikipag usap. Ang peace process ay inclusive of MILF not exclusive sa MILF? Did I get it right?

Sen. Bongbong: Well I don’t know. We have to see kung anu ba…because look, If the MILF and the BIFF are coordinating, wag nalang nating sabihing nagkakaisa pero coordinating. Then can the MILF control the BIFF? Pag may usapan tayo sa MILF at sinabi sa BIFF itigil ninyo ang laban, maititigil ba talaga? In fact the question is hindi na lang BIFF. Yung tauhan man nila eh. Kahit yung tauhan ng MILF that called themselves MILF kontrolado ba ni Chairman Murad? Kontrolado ba ng mga commander nila? That’s another question. So you know, ofcourse there’s no total control but at least effective control. So this is the kind of thing that we are hoping to learn about when the MILF report comes out.

Ayala: Siguro huling punto para saating mga panauhin. Yung “Prejudice differences.” Am I just exaggerating or differentiating our differences? Kasi kung titignan natin yung kabataan…Facebook generation. Pare-pareho ng lenguahe. Ang tinitilian yung KathNiel. Hindi ko alam kung anu yung mga utang ng ninuno natin sakanila na dapat pagbayaran ng mga bata ngayon. Baka naman am I just stalking our differences. Andami ng naitapon na mga proyekto dun sa Mindanao. Hanggang kalian tayo mabubuhay dun sa nakalipas…Senator?

Sen. Bongbong: Well, I think ganyan din…any peace process I think kailangan may ganyang proseso na sinasabi “Huwag na nating pag usapan ang nakaraan at pag usapan nalang natin ang kinabukasan” I remember, years ago, ito naman yung Israel o Palestine ang pinag uusapan. I-ninterview yung Israeli side. Sinabi, “Talagang hindi ko ititgil ang laban sa mga Palestinyan dahil yung ama ko pinatay nila!” Meron talagang dahilan. Ininterview naman yung Palestinyan side, ganun din! “Ang dami! Yung lahat ng pinsan ko naubos dyan sa mga Israeli na yan.” So everybody has a valid reason dahil nagka giyera na ng ilang daang taon. This is hundreds of years of conflict. So there is both sides have the reason to continue fighting. Somebody has to take the first step and to say “Sige. Lunikin na muna natin yung mga nangyari at pag usapan nalang natin kung ano ang magiging buhay ng ating mga anak, ng ating mga magiging apo sa pagdating ng kinabukasan.” That is the element of forgiveness. That is absolutely necessary for a true and lasting peace and that is something na yun siguro yung madaling gumawa ng agreement, hindi naman madali pero maaring gumawa ng BBL. Pero yung forgiveness na sasabihin “Oh sige, hindi na tayo naglalaban kahit na merong mga magagandang dahilan ako na ituloy yung ang laban at ikaw man, yung kabila ay ganun din. Hindi natin kakalimutan. Ngunit isantabi muna natin at ang pag usapan natin ay ang kinabukasan.” That’s the only way.

Ayala: Salamat po! Hingin natin ang huling statement ng ating mga panauhin mula sa Lehislatura.

Sen. Bongbong: Siguro ganun din, may idadagdag lang ako dahil sa sinabi ni General tungkol sa pag uugnay ng AFP atska PNP. Isa sa pinaka malungkot na napanuod ko nung mga hearing ay yung kapulisan ay nagtuturuan sa mga sundalo. And that’s for me one of the worst things that I had to witness. Dahil it should not be that way at alam ko naman na they train together that there are close pero for this incident to bring them to that kind of situation na nagtututruan sila, nagsisisihan sila, hindi talaga dapat. We have to heal that rift between the PNP and the SAF. Ang plano ko habang hinihintay natin lahat ng malaman, lahat ng tunay na pangyayari ay siguro itutuloy na naming, sisimulan na namin, hinihintay naming yung Committee Report ni Sen. Miriam on the “Constitutional Issues” maybe we can get started with that. Dahil ito namang pangyayari sa Mamasapano ay hindi naapektuahan ang constitutional issue. So we can continue to work on that. But again, kailangan parin natin. Kasi, sa bilang ko 9 (siyam) na entity ang nag i-imbebestiga tapos binubuo pa natin ang “Truth Commission” which para saakin ay siguro yung overall na siguro na body yun para kunin lahat yung findings ng ibat-ibang entity na nag imbestiga at mag labas ng final na report. So ganun siguro ang magiging schedule namin. Hindi ko kayo mabibigyan ng petsa kung what date should occur because hinihintay nga natin ang mga resulta ng mga ibat-ibang ahensya. So that’s where we stand at least in the Senate.

 Ayala: Salamat po!

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