Ambush Interview after Senate Session
Q: Someone is writing a story sa amin na yung KBL is involved sa coup plot against President Aquino?
Sen. Bongbong: (Laughs) The KBL….the KBL is not involved in anything. The KBL exists right now…only exists on paper. We do not conduct meetings, we do not….in fact, as a matter of fact the reorganization is still ongoing. So we are not…in fact, the KBL has already been of the last few elections a regional party, regional political party. You know, I ran under KBL when I was governor but even in the 2010 and 2013 elections we…Gov. Imee and myself already ran under NP.
Q: So judging from the recent, yung ‘tong executive session and yung last public hearings, kailangan pa bang ituloy in open hearing ang mga…?
Sen. Bongbong: Ahh, that, you’ll have to ask the committee chairman but maybe there will be just…ahh, I don’t know, I’m just speculating because we have to tie up all the loose ends bago masulat yung committee report. I don’t know, I cannot tell you. You will have to ask Sen. Grace what her plan is kung magkakaroon pa ng additional public hearing after this.
Q: Sir kayo ba naliliwanagan kayo sir, are you closer to….?
Sen. Bongbong: Yes, very very, very useful…sorry…very very useful and very constructive yung mga ating nagiging executive session. The general …yung kung ano man yung mga narinig natin sa public hearing, the details surrounding all of those na narirrinig dito sa public hearing yun ang mga nagpi-fill-in dito sa mga executive session.
Q: So sir you can proceed na with the BBL hearings, you can resume it soon dahil we’re closer to the truth, tama po ba?
Sen. Bongbong: We’re getting certainly closer to the truth. Whether or not it’s sufficient we will have…kasi ang dami naming nakuhang information we will have to it study again and see exactly what are the conclusions we can derive. Because we are getting into some very detailed lines of questioning. So kailangan munang balikan, pag-aralan, ikumpara yung mga sinabi ng isang resource person as compared to what we heard in the executive session to what we heard here in the public hearing. So marami pang pag-aaralan bago makapag-conclude ang committee. Again it’s not my committee, it’s Sen. Grace’s committee, sya ang gagawa ng committee report.
But even for the individual Senators, at the end…pag natapos na ang lahat ng hearing ng public order tungkol sa Mamasapano incident we will still have to go back and look at the details again at pag-aralan namin ng mabuti para ipag-ikumpara yung salaysay ng lahat ng mga naging resource persons.
Q: Would you want one more hearing sir, about the Mamasapano encounter?
Sen. Bongbong: Myself?
Q: Yes, yes, public hearing? Some senators are calling for it, kasi sir.
Sen. Bongbong: I think it may be useful because there’s a lot of…there’s still some loose ends that are not secret, that we can discuss in public hearing. So maybe it would be useful for me just to tie up, as I said, tie up the loose ends.
Q: Sir, on another note merong reports of US involvement sa Oplan Exodus, any comment? Nasa newspaper reports sir?
Sen. Bongbong: That would require me to divulge information that we garnered during the executive session, so no comment?
Q: So pinag-usapan? So it was tackled in the executive session? So you talked about it?
Sen. Bongbong: No comment, no comment.
Q: Is the accountability clearer now based on the executive session?
Sen. Bongbong: I cannot speak for the other senators but…it’s not…for me, yes. And it’s not because of the executive session.
Q: Up to …?
Sen. Bongbong: It’s because of the other testimonies that we had heard.
Q: Sir yung shut up ng hearing sa House would it that amount to saving the President kasi mukhang mas matinding magtanong yung mga congressman natin no, kaysa sa…dito, dito medyo malamya?
Sen. Bongbong: I don’t think so. I think it is more of a political decision. Dahil kung ituloy walang panalo yung BBL. So pina…para hindi…kasi mainit pa ang ano, galit pa ang tao so siguro pinapalamig lahat para me pag-asa, me pag-asang mapasa ang BBL.
Q: Ganun sir ang sitwasyon dito sir, sa Senate?
Sen. Bongbong: Hindi, hindi namin pinag-uusapan yun. Basta ang gusto lang namin matapos yung inquiry into the incident.
Q: So wala pa ngayon kayong sir decision kung kailan ire-resume yung hearing sa BBL considering na…
Sen. Bongbong: Well yun nga, yung tinatanong ninyo kanina yung tungkol sa truth commission, inaantay ko rin yung truth commission e. So pero kung masyadong, parang masyadong baka masyadong matagalan ahh, then we can get the results of the hearings in the House, the results of the hearings in the Senate. We’re getting close to the point na sufficient na yung information namin na malaman kung ano yung nangyari.
But again, it’s…some of it is…sa dami na ng testimony we really have to go back and study it again. I cannot categorically say that we have made conclusions already.
Q: Sir, but because you need to assess first yung information na ilalabas nyo from the executive session, hindi ba yan parang filtered na yung ilalabas nyo sa publiko?
Sen. Bongbong: Well, the executive sessions by definition we do not report what went on inside the executive session—hindi namin talaga gustong pag-usapan yun. What we can talk about is kung ano yung lumabas na sa public hearing.
Q: So anong sense nung ano…anong sense nung …sa executive kung kayo lang ang nakakaalam, how would the public be informed about what went on?
Sen. Bongbong: It’s unfortunate but you know, sa pananaw ko yung mga executive sessions kailangan talaga. At maraming napag-usapan na hindi dapat ipalabas. In fact, even in executive session me usapan kami yung mga iba’t-ibang bagay wag na nating itanong dahil masyadong sensitive. I guess in terms of the public knowledge, hintayin na lang natin yung committee report ni Sen. Grace.
Q: Sir, ano pa ang gusto nyong itanong kay Gen. Purisima?
Sen. Bongbong: No comment.
Q: Sir dun sa document na hawak ni Sen. Allan, lumilitaw na me intimate relationship ang MILF with terrorist group, with that may basis pa ba para ituloy yung peace process with the MILF?
Sen. Bongbong: Well, kailangan pang i-assess yung information na yun because that came out of an indictment in an American court. So we will see how relevant that is. We have to validate it. And then we have to ask the MILF to explain kung ano ba talagang kahulugan nitong exchanges dun sa kapatid ni Marwan saka sya.
Q: Thank you sir!
Sen. Bongbong: Okay, thank you.
Q: Sir may tanong ako kasi di ba yung sa indictment, yung hawak na papeles ni Sen. Alan, yung inissue na warrant of arrest galing sa California District Court, ano pong hawak nung SAF na warrant of arrest yung sa US o yung warrant of arrest galing PNP?
Sen. Bongbong: A hindi, hindi….hindi gagalaw ang pulis natin to…to…hindi naman sila pulis ng Amerika e. So hindi sila alagad ng ….they are not agents of American court. Ang ii-enforce lang nila na warrant yung galing…yung warrant na hawak nila galing sa Kidapawan. Public record naman yan e…wala naman akong ano…that’s a public record. They were serving a warrant from Kidapawan…RTC Kidapawan.
Q: Panong magse-serve sila ng warrant e parang ang purpose talaga is to neutralize Marwan, kasi madaling araw e, magse-serve ka ba ng warrant ng madaling araw, alas tres? Neutralize…neutralization ata agad yun?
Sen. Bongbong: Ang ideal nila na biglaan…because the element of surprise, wala nang lalaban. So the chances are best kung tulog. Bago pa nagising nahuli na, pero hindi, that’s not what happened. It didn’t work out that way….
Q: Na-delay ng two hours e….?
Sen. Bongbong: Kasama yun, kasama yun.
Q: Sir hindi ba natin pwedeng i-mislead yung MILF para they would accede to what the government has been asking them instead of the MILF misleading the government?
Sen. Bongbong: Parang sinubukan na rin nila yun e…
Sen. Bongbong: Oo e…..pero wala ….
Q: Ah, hindi umubra?
Sen. Bongbong: Syempre kahit papano, parang iniisip mo yung kalaban parang pinasok yung Crame. So kahit na anong ano mo, pagka hindi mo…..pagka pumasok ka na, e mapapalaban ka na. So that’s why the extraction phase is very important.
Q: A so hindi sya umubra? Pero hindi ba pwedeng i-klaro, kanino ba talaga kami nakikipag-peace talk? Sa MILF, MNLF o BIFF?
Sen. Bongbong: Yun ang isang marami pang tinatanong and we have gone…we are getting information on that, kaya nga yung indictment na nahanap ni Sen. Allan, yung mga salaysay dito, ipagsasama-sama natin para malaman talaga kung…
Q: Kung kanino talaga?
Sen. Bongbong: Oo.
Q: Sir do you think yung creation ng BIFF ploy lang ng MILF para pag hindi naging successful yung peace talks, pinagagalaw nila BI…manggulo kayo….para ano…pero talagang meron silang unholy alliance.
Sen. Bongbong: Again, titingnan natin kasi maraming ibat-ibang intelligence assessment, e kailangan nating pag-aralan kung ano yung mga sinasabi ng….me…basta’t maraming intelligence assessment at different levels—we have to look at it all para makita kung ano ba talaga. Matagal ko nang paulit-ulit itinatanong: give us, explain and clarify the relationship between the MILF and the BIFF. Ako tatrabahuhin ko yun hanggat makita ko talaga kung ano yung relationship na…
Q: Meron daw 2 kasama yung SAF na MILF members, as civilian guides…
Sen. Bongbong:Ah, oo…
Q: Na napatay din?
Sen. Bongbong: Yung isa, yung isa sugatan tinatago nila.
Q: Who? Sino sila sir?
Sen. Bongbong: Ng SAF, ng gobyerno.
Q: Sir napanood ninyo yung exclusive ng Channel 7, yung meron silang survivor na isa pa. Parang lumalabas po yun survivor from 84th Company. Wala ba kayong ii-invite from 84th Company na survivor kasi sila lang sa 55th sya e, kasi me iba ring sinasabi si ano e…
Q: Si Train?
Sen. Bongbong: O, yun pala, alam…hindi ko na nga sasagutin dahil executive session, e alam nyo naman pala e.